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A question of goblins - SilverHammerMan - 10-12-2011 08:16 AM
I was perusing the excellent Project: Rooftop recently and I came across a post about the upcoming Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon series (a completely unnecessary series in my opinion since Spectacular Spider-Man was perfectly fine, but that's a different matter) in which it detailed the various character designs. One caught my eye however, the design for the Green Goblin, which took inspiration from the Ultimate Comics, and I've gotta say.... I hate it.
I've never like the big super-freak look for the Green Goblin, it just takes away the appeal of the character as this maniac with an unending amount of insane plans and trick, instead it just turns him into another boring character to be bested in a punching contest. It's unnecessary too since Spider-Man has tons of one-dimensional villains who are just there to wreak inarticulate havoc, the Goblin is always great because he's unpredictable and insane. Same goes for the Ultimate Hobgoblin by the way.
What I'm saying is that I prefer the classic "guy in a suit one a hilarious rocket sled" Green Goblin to the Ultimate "generic mutated freak" Green Goblin.
Do you agree? Yes/No/Maybe? Why?
One more thing that I realized on further reflection is that I feel that the OG GG is more visually interesting, not just from a costuming and physical standpoint, but from an action one as well. The Ultimate GG is just some big guy who sometimes throws fireballs, Spidey jumps around him making puns and then maybe lands on his back to pummel the Goblin, end of scene. OG GG on the other hand, has one thing that Spidey doesn't: flight. So when they're fighting, not only is the Green Goblin using actual weapons (bombs, throwing knives, come the demon Etrigan) which is a refreshing change from a bunch of punching, but to actually get at the Goblin Spider-Man has to get creative, launching himself at the glider or even attaching a webline to it. It's just a visually more interesting fight to me and it helps to further set the Goblin apart from more punch-y enemies. It's also an uphill battle against a better armed opponent instead of just a bigger opponent, which is also a nice change.
RE: A question of goblins - thechrishaley - 10-12-2011 10:03 AM
Is anyone else having problems voting in this poll?
RE: A question of goblins - SilverHammerMan - 10-12-2011 10:11 AM
Yes, I can never vote in the polls here.
RE: A question of goblins - danielfelts - 10-12-2011 12:28 PM
One of the things I liked about the Ultimate universe, at its inception, was the inter-connectivity of everything. In this continuity, the existence of the Hulk, Green Goblin, and Spider-man are all predicated on Captain America. Banner and Osborn are both trying to recreate the Super Soldier Serum, and that goes toward explaining the similarities between the two transformations. Spider-man is a result of Osborn's research.
The 616 Green Goblin gets to be his own person, whereas Ultimate Goblin lives in service of the story; therefore the glider-riding Osborn is a stronger character when looked at on his own. I like the Ultimate Green Goblin, but mainly in relationship to his role in the larger story.
RE: A question of goblins - Koltreg - 10-15-2011 01:37 PM
My real vote goes to the Green Goblin from Spider-Man Unlimited when he was a guy with a Spanish accent.