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**curtofranklin** · 09-14-2011, 08:03 AM

This sums up my 30 minutes playing Minecraft:

Load up a world. Look around. It starts to get dark. I have no idea what to do.

Darkness falls. I am struck by an arrow. I run away, right into a spider. I see a green thing. It hits me and explodes and I die.

I respawn. I still have no inventory. I get killed by another exploding guy.

I respawn in the same spot. Two spiders jump on me and I die.

I don't know how to build anything, mine anything, fight anything. Am I supposed to have to look stuff up online to figure out how to do anything?

Name · 09-14-2011, 09:40 AM

Yes, it's a lot like Dwarf Fortress that way.

Rurik · 09-14-2011, 10:09 AM

Minecraft has that achievement system now that acts sort of like a tutorial. There's also a difficulty setting for those who want to learn the rules of the game without creepers. I was pretty lost at first too. Reading stuff online or watching a video about how to survive the first night can be super helpful.

Dwarf Fortress is still completely brutal despite me having played it a lot. That said, I can't wait until they expand Adventurer mode more.

Name · 09-14-2011, 02:42 PM

I know, right? I can get a fortress up and going, but when the assaults commence or something starts going wrong, foodwise, I'm fucked.

Rurik · 09-15-2011, 07:59 AM

One thing I learned the hard way is that the plump seeds you bring don't grow outside, so you have to find dirt in underground. Usually I get my fortress up to a nice level and then lock the doors so no immagrants can come up and ruin everything. I'm basically a Dwarf Fortress Neo-con.

That is why I play Dwarf Fortress for challenge and Minecraft for fun.

Name · (This post was last modified: 09-15-2011 09:21 AM by Name.)

I knew the plump seeds thing, but I don't see the value in locking the doors. You'll need wood for charcoal, right? Or do you have a clearing walled off?

Also, isn't more manpower generally desirable?

MoustachePants · (This post was last modified: 09-15-2011 09:49 AM by MoustachePants.)

So I am trying to play the free version on the site and all I'm getting is a black box... Can it run on MAC? am I an idiot and am missing something obvious? do I need an OMAC?

Rurik · 09-15-2011, 12:39 PM

(09-15-2011 09:18 AM)Name Wrote: I knew the plump seeds thing, but I don't see the value in locking the doors. You'll need wood for charcoal, right? Or do you have a clearing walled off?
Also, isn't more manpower generally desirable?

In my experience more workers come too fast, so I lick it until I feel I have the fortress good and stable for the people I have, and then open it back up when I'm ready. I don't lock it right away, I stockpile a lot of resources first.

Name · 09-15-2011, 12:48 PM

Ah, I get where you're coming from.

Rurik · 09-15-2011, 01:04 PM

Anyway, MINECRAFT! I was super sad to hear the news that snow biomes are gone until 1.9. My next idea for a project was a viking village in the snow. Now I have to wait.

Also, has anyone noticed that animals spawn all over the place in the 1.8 prerelease? I see them in trees and in water all the time.